Ormus King Octology vs Disney Star Wars

…for Bob-Iger.com

(updated 14 July, 2020)

I recently watched the 2 videos below and started wondering about all the plot, visual and theme similarities between Ormus King and Star Wars ep 8+9, especially due to the fact that they were developed in the same time period.

In summary, The Rise of Skywalker seems to be a half-baked amalgamation of “Star Wars: Impossible Redemption” + OK3 + OK5 + OK7 with additional  layers to enable it to fit into the new Star Wars universe.

To me, JJ Abrams attempted to create a cosmology: something which Ormus King has but Star Wars does not. Additionally, the Disney Star Wars sequel trilogy wrecked the hero-archetype and journey and this is its main social failure and cause for social upheaval. Ormus King corrects this.

These are the similarities that I found.


OK1 (21 May 2017) – flying:

SW8 (December 2017) – Leia flying:

Problem: In terms of Leia flying, this has received much criticism and some praise, but my concern is Leia straight ripping off Adrian Boron – even if flying originated in the mainstream with Mary Poppins, the trend of unscrupulous copying begins and becomes significant whereby Star Wars ep9 may likely cause confusion with Ormus King.



OK3 >> Star Wars 9
Planet Velox >> Planet Exegol (evil purpose)
Planet Velox >> Planet Pasaana (underground caverns + lifeforms)
Barahn >> Dark Lord of the Sith
Emerald Order crystal & cave map >> Sith Wayfinder
Soul Harvest Syndicate (SHS) >> Sith Eternal
SHS Temple and Outpost >> Sith Citadel

OK3 (July, August 2018)

SW9 (Dec, 2019)



OK7 (19 September 2019) Healing through touch and accessing a higher dimension:

Eve: Where are we?
JS: I’m not sure, the 4th density perhaps.
[Eve points to a dying flower]
Eve: For it to die here is unusual
JS: Say again
[JS places hand near it – it comes back to life due to his pure intention]
Eve: oh my god, I’ve finally met …
JS: …Jai Shimon, accessing the Wisdom Realm
Eve: Where’s that?
JS: “You go into the Wisdom Realm when you follow the creator’s path.” [Akashic and Intelligence Dimensions]

SW9 (Dec, 2019) – Force Healing:



OK3 (July, August 2018) – fetch quest:

SW9 – the “double fetch quest” (ROSACCF – 17:52) is not an exact clone of OK3, but it is highly comparable in style and visual language:

Extra problem: “There simply isn’t time for much rumination in The Rise of Skywalker, even though the main plot amounts to little more than a video-gamey fetch quest that hops from planet to planet in search of magic doohickeys that will plot a course to the next set piece.” The Most Incoherent Star Wars Movie Ever Made



OK2 (August 2017) – Juxtaposing horses and medieval weapons onto warring spacecraft:

SW9 – How Are They Breathing in Space | Rise Of Skywalker

Extra problem: Are they breathing in space? Difficult for people to accept.



“Star Wars: Impossible Redemption, ep 8” (Jan 2016)

Redeeming Kylo Ren is something I always wanted to see:

SW9 – ​Han Solo Meets Kylo Ren Scene – Star Wars : The Rise Of Skywalker (2019)

Extra problem: “The Rise of Skywalker is uninterested in telling a story of process; it is a film that only seems able to relay narrative information in events. It is a film unable to articulate context past the confines of the frame or the scene.” Star Wars: Why Kylo Ren’s Redemption in The Rise of Skywalker Misses the Point



OK6 (11 Sep 2019)

Long-lived Skrim (OK7) personifies the source of evil (but is beyond it.) Skrim empowers evil across all worlds – he is at the top of the pyramid whereby “rebellions are made up of fallen souls who can influence lifeforms through psychic intrusion.”


Palpatine is “one bad guy pulling the strings behind all nine movies” Lucasfilm Reportedly Developing Palpatine Prequel

“My boy, I have been every voice you have ever heard, inside your head.” (17 December 2019, 0:11)

Thus, the concept of “psychic intrusion” gets implemented in The Rise of Skywalker trailer 3 months after I put it into writing in OK6:

Extra problem: While bringing back Palpatine had been discussed in April, 2019 – it was done in a way that copied Ormus King 7 through psychic intrusion and to me this seems to be SW9’s most egregious rip-off of Ormus King (and my thinking behind it.)



OK5 (21 December 2019)

OK3 >> Star Wars 9
Rippy >> Snoke

“Rippy then stares at the original Idris in suspension similar to the clones in The Prestige.”


The clone tank is visually re-implemented here (ROSACCF – 11:08

Extra problem: “Instead of being a formidable character in his own right, Snoke turned out to be nothing more than a clone who was being puppeteered by Emperor Palpatine.” The Rise of Skywalker Made Snoke’s Last Jedi Death Worse



OK7 (19 September 2019)

A main protagonist channelling a higher power to destroy an opposing army :

[the demons surround them at the summit of the mountain pyramid]
Gog: [loudly to couple] zero prisoners taken
Eve: zero fucks given
Gog: [raises hands to execution squad, makes eye contact with JS]
Jai Shimon: I surrender [both arms raised and drops head]
[lightning bolt comes from JS’s body and vapourizes the entire army]


Palpatine’s exaggerated force-lightning to incapacitate the opposing fleet.
Everything Wrong With Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker In Force (19:51):

Extra problem: Palpatine’s rise to supremacy was about tempting people away from the light (via deception and fear) and then infecting them with his brand of darkness. Here he becomes some type of supercharged Marvel villain and thus a misappropriation of his core raison d’etre.

The End!